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		<title>By: strom und meer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Links für den 23. April 2007</title>
		<link>http://www.nialler9.com/2007/04/23/it-takes-a-nation-of-oprahs/#comment-7997</link>
		<dc:creator>strom und meer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Links für den 23. April 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 17:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nialler9 - Music/Mp3 Blog » Blog Archive » It takes a Nation of Oprahs… On the Oprah show, Russell Simmons (founder of Def Jam) says that the issue would be addressed at a closed-doors meeting with various artists and executives of the hip hop community who would be looking at “the future of hip-hop and how the genre can be [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gem</title>
		<link>http://www.nialler9.com/2007/04/23/it-takes-a-nation-of-oprahs/#comment-7994</link>
		<dc:creator>gem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 01:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web Site Clearinghouse for Grassroots Efforts to Combat Misogyny in Music

I think there plenty of us that are equally outraged about the portrayal of African American women in popular culture . Following the Oprah Town Hall meeting I decided to create a website to serve as a clearing house of all of the grassroots effort out there to combat misogyny in music.  Whataboutourdaughters.org. I think that it is time to DEFUND THE WAR ON BLACK WOMEN! Period. End of discussion. This isn’t about artistic expression. This is about capitalism. People have a right to basically say whatever they want to, but I don’t have to subsidize it in any way. Hence the term “starving artist.”

We started an online call-in talk show as well called “the Black Women’s Roundtable” Saturdays at Noon CST.  Our topic this week is “Does Hip Hop Really Hate Black Women?”  If you can’t listen live, you can always catch the archived show at blogtalkradio.com/blackwomen
&lt;a href=&quot;http://whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p>I think there plenty of us that are equally outraged about the portrayal of African American women in popular culture . Following the Oprah Town Hall meeting I decided to create a website to serve as a clearing house of all of the grassroots effort out there to combat misogyny in music.  Whataboutourdaughters.org. I think that it is time to DEFUND THE WAR ON BLACK WOMEN! Period. End of discussion. This isn’t about artistic expression. This is about capitalism. People have a right to basically say whatever they want to, but I don’t have to subsidize it in any way. Hence the term “starving artist.”</p>
<p>We started an online call-in talk show as well called “the Black Women’s Roundtable” Saturdays at Noon CST.  Our topic this week is “Does Hip Hop Really Hate Black Women?”  If you can’t listen live, you can always catch the archived show at blogtalkradio.com/blackwomen<br />
<a href="http://whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: datsun</title>
		<link>http://www.nialler9.com/2007/04/23/it-takes-a-nation-of-oprahs/#comment-7930</link>
		<dc:creator>datsun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hiphop mostly sucks these days
How much crack, money and bitches can one man smoke, burn and fuck? Were is the substance in lyrics that preach nonsense like this? 

I&#039;m glad this is being discussed.
pity the kids (above) and mindless masses will continue to support Akon and his fellow thugged out / tricked out king Solomon wanna bees. 

At the route of this problem, like most, lies money and our endless pursuit to live beyond our means.....

love you all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hiphop mostly sucks these days<br />
How much crack, money and bitches can one man smoke, burn and fuck? Were is the substance in lyrics that preach nonsense like this? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad this is being discussed.<br />
pity the kids (above) and mindless masses will continue to support Akon and his fellow thugged out / tricked out king Solomon wanna bees. </p>
<p>At the route of this problem, like most, lies money and our endless pursuit to live beyond our means&#8230;..</p>
<p>love you all</p>
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		<title>By: AstonishingSodApe</title>
		<link>http://www.nialler9.com/2007/04/23/it-takes-a-nation-of-oprahs/#comment-7929</link>
		<dc:creator>AstonishingSodApe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>r u fukn stupid?

akon 4 eva u bitchez

aaron luvs shanice 2007</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>r u fukn stupid?</p>
<p>akon 4 eva u bitchez</p>
<p>aaron luvs shanice 2007</p>
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		<title>By: cadygrapes</title>
		<link>http://www.nialler9.com/2007/04/23/it-takes-a-nation-of-oprahs/#comment-7926</link>
		<dc:creator>cadygrapes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahem, here goes my first blog post, or comment rather.

Saul clearly thinks theres nothing wrong with enjoying &quot;offensive&quot; music. I definitely enjoy a lot of it. If I put out my own music though I most likely wouldn&#039;t produce that kind, just as he decided not to. He also doesn&#039;t say theres a direct link from Saddam or whatever anecdote to rap music. He&#039;s just saying that religion etc has shaped a lot of the values reflected in society and so in rap music, and that censoring rap is like a bad band-aid solution that doesn&#039;t get to the root of the problem. It&#039;s like the bit in Bowling for Columbine, pointing out that it&#039;s not the violent video games that are the true cause of U.S. gun deaths, since if that were the case Japan would be taking the lead. So he&#039;s critical of values/influences like the virgin/whore dichotomy but anti-censorship...not to mention thoughtful and civil in his criticism. I just don&#039;t see where he goes wrong. 
I do agree with Fionntán that lots of rappers perpetuate these ill values or whatever, and in a certain sense should be critcized (not censored), but that just goes back to the video game point...the focus is off.
It&#039;s a beautiful piece, in my opinion.   

...I also think Oprah rocks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahem, here goes my first blog post, or comment rather.</p>
<p>Saul clearly thinks theres nothing wrong with enjoying &#8220;offensive&#8221; music. I definitely enjoy a lot of it. If I put out my own music though I most likely wouldn&#8217;t produce that kind, just as he decided not to. He also doesn&#8217;t say theres a direct link from Saddam or whatever anecdote to rap music. He&#8217;s just saying that religion etc has shaped a lot of the values reflected in society and so in rap music, and that censoring rap is like a bad band-aid solution that doesn&#8217;t get to the root of the problem. It&#8217;s like the bit in Bowling for Columbine, pointing out that it&#8217;s not the violent video games that are the true cause of U.S. gun deaths, since if that were the case Japan would be taking the lead. So he&#8217;s critical of values/influences like the virgin/whore dichotomy but anti-censorship&#8230;not to mention thoughtful and civil in his criticism. I just don&#8217;t see where he goes wrong.<br />
I do agree with Fionntán that lots of rappers perpetuate these ill values or whatever, and in a certain sense should be critcized (not censored), but that just goes back to the video game point&#8230;the focus is off.<br />
It&#8217;s a beautiful piece, in my opinion.   </p>
<p>&#8230;I also think Oprah rocks :)</p>
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		<title>By: strom und meer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-04-23</title>
		<link>http://www.nialler9.com/2007/04/23/it-takes-a-nation-of-oprahs/#comment-7925</link>
		<dc:creator>strom und meer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-04-23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nialler9 - Music/Mp3 Blog » Blog Archive » It takes a Nation of Oprahs… On the Oprah show, Russell Simmons (founder of Def Jam) says that the issue would be addressed at a closed-doors meeting with various artists and executives of the hip hop community who would be looking at “the future of hip-hop and how the genre can be (tags: oprah, saul williams, rap, hiphop, codex, usa) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.nialler9.com/2007/04/23/it-takes-a-nation-of-oprahs/#comment-7924</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got a lot of time for Saul Williams, but there&#039;s something slightly off about a guy who can write a sentence like &#039;Thank you, Ms. Winfrey, for your forum, your heart, and your vision&#039; without any apparent hint of irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a lot of time for Saul Williams, but there&#8217;s something slightly off about a guy who can write a sentence like &#8216;Thank you, Ms. Winfrey, for your forum, your heart, and your vision&#8217; without any apparent hint of irony.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://www.nialler9.com/2007/04/23/it-takes-a-nation-of-oprahs/#comment-7923</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not really feeling Saul&#039;s logic. 

personally I enjoy plenty of music which has lyrics that are reprehensible or offensive, I listen to music for creativity and sonic invention and to hear someone else&#039;s pov, not to have my personal political views endorsed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not really feeling Saul&#8217;s logic. </p>
<p>personally I enjoy plenty of music which has lyrics that are reprehensible or offensive, I listen to music for creativity and sonic invention and to hear someone else&#8217;s pov, not to have my personal political views endorsed.</p>
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		<title>By: youreonlymassive</title>
		<link>http://www.nialler9.com/2007/04/23/it-takes-a-nation-of-oprahs/#comment-7920</link>
		<dc:creator>youreonlymassive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t hate the playa etc...
At least people are acknowledging that words have power...irony is like so way ova!
*maebh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t hate the playa etc&#8230;<br />
At least people are acknowledging that words have power&#8230;irony is like so way ova!<br />
*maebh</p>
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		<title>By: Fionntán</title>
		<link>http://www.nialler9.com/2007/04/23/it-takes-a-nation-of-oprahs/#comment-7919</link>
		<dc:creator>Fionntán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellently written piece, fantastic scope, but like a lot of artistic writing about society it really means little.

Sorry to sound conservative here but I really don&#039;t see what is wrong with blaming 50 Cent and his ilk for their own actions. They&#039;re grown men who known the acusations against them.
It&#039;s not really that crazy an idea is it?

Old Testament style relgion? Bush?
The President, and leaders of other countries voted to remove Saddam from power (bad idea or not, it&#039;s not the point here) therefore they rap about murdering people and write sexist lyrics?

I don&#039;t buy it for one second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellently written piece, fantastic scope, but like a lot of artistic writing about society it really means little.</p>
<p>Sorry to sound conservative here but I really don&#8217;t see what is wrong with blaming 50 Cent and his ilk for their own actions. They&#8217;re grown men who known the acusations against them.<br />
It&#8217;s not really that crazy an idea is it?</p>
<p>Old Testament style relgion? Bush?<br />
The President, and leaders of other countries voted to remove Saddam from power (bad idea or not, it&#8217;s not the point here) therefore they rap about murdering people and write sexist lyrics?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy it for one second.</p>
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		<title>By: Aidan</title>
		<link>http://www.nialler9.com/2007/04/23/it-takes-a-nation-of-oprahs/#comment-7917</link>
		<dc:creator>Aidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>an insightful read indeed, thanks for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>an insightful read indeed, thanks for the post.</p>
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